Newsletter - 21st November 2018

 

 

Enormous savings on DNA tests UPDATED

Which relatives should you ask to test their DNA?

When is a Y-DNA test worth considering?

Save your DNA for posterity!

The story of an RAF prisoner of war

Adoption matters

Do you have Yorkshire ancestors?

Society of Genealogists library temporarily closed

A petition with a difference

Precisely when was the Armistice signed?

Black Friday offers

Stop Press

 

 

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Enormous savings on DNA tests END SOON

As usual providers seem to have saved their best deals for Thanksgiving Weekend - but don’t just go for the lowest price or look for the biggest reduction. It really does make a BIG difference who you test with!

 

When you test your DNA, or that of a relative, you ideally want as many matches as possible - because each match represents a clue that might help you knock down one of your 'brick walls' (and unless you're an absolute novice you'll have dozens of 'brick walls' in your tree). How many matches you get is largely a function of how many other sets of results there are in the database of the company you test with - and there's one company that has more results than ALL of the others added together. Furthermore, the only way you can get access to that massive database is by testing with that company - because unlike most other providers they don’t accept transfers.

 

The company I'm referring to is Ancestry - over 10 million people have already tested with them, and if last year is any guide, that number will be approaching 15 million by the end of this year. So unless you know something I don't, there's only one autosomal DNA test worth considering - provided you live in one of the countries they ship to.

 

Tip: you don't need an Ancestry subscription to view your DNA matches or contact them (though you won’t be able to view their trees without permission); you don't even need to upload your tree, although I'd recommend uploading a private tree if you can as it will not only make life easier for you, it will also signal to other users that you’re not a novice.  

 

Please log-out from your Ancestry account (if necessary) then click the relevant link below so that you can support LostCousins - and note that the shipping prices in the UK have halved since this time last year (I'm not sure about other territories):

 

 

Ancestry.co.uk (UK only) - SALE PRICE £49 plus shipping (ends 11.59pm London time on Monday 26th November)

 

 

Ancestry.com.au (Australia & New Zealand only) - SALE PRICE A$88 plus shipping (ends 11.59pm AEDT on Monday 26th November)

Ancestry.ca (Canada only) - SALE PRICE C$69 plus shipping (ends 11.59pm EST on Monday 26th November)

 

Ancestry.com (US only) - SALE PRICE US$49 plus shipping (ends 11.59pm EST on Monday 26th November)

 

Tip: when you order from Ancestry you don’t need to decide who is going to test - you can figure it out at your leisure. But see the next article as it might determine how many tests you order.

 

Family Tree DNA (Worldwide) - SALE PRICE US$39 (ends Monday 26th November)

 

 

Which relatives should you ask to test their DNA?

Those of you who have yet to take a DNA test might well think that once you've tested your own DNA, that's it. But anyone who has already tested, and is faced with thousands or - if they tested with Ancestry - tens of thousands of matches, will know that it’s just the starting point.

 

There's nothing in our autosomal DNA to tell us who it came from - you can’t even tell whether it came from your mother or your father. So when you get a match with a cousin, they could be connected to you through any ancestral line in your tree (including the ones you don’t know about yet, because they're on the other side of a 'brick wall').

 

Testing your brothers and sisters will produce more matches with genetic cousins, but you still won't know which part of your tree they come from - for that you need someone who shares some of your tree rather than all of it. It's simple when you think about it - if you and a known cousin of yours have a DNA match with the same genetic cousin, you can be almost certain that the match comes from the part of your tree that you share. All you need to do is identify the most recent common ancestors that you and your known cousin share - the new cousin you've both been matched with must either be descended from them, or from one of their ancestors.

 

Of course, this works the other way round too. If you're trying to crack a particular 'brick wall' you need to figure out which cousins are going to provide you with the best clues.

 

Tip: DNA tests are expensive, so start by connecting with as many 'lost cousins' as possible - they’re also researching the ancestors you share, and some will have tested already, others will be prepared to test if you explain how you can both benefit. A couple of hours spent adding relatives from 1881 to your My Ancestors page might save you hundreds of pounds and hundreds of hours of wasted effort - and it'll also help with your conventional research, which makes it a really smart choice!

 

 

When is a Y-DNA test worth considering?

It's only in recent years that autosomal DNA testing has taken over from Y-DNA testing as the most popular type of DNA test for genealogists - and whilst there's a very good reason why this happened, this doesn’t mean that Y-DNA tests have been superseded.

 

First let's remind ourselves what the key differences are. When a child is conceived it will have inherited a set of 22 autosomes from each parents, an X chromosome from its mother, and either an X or a Y chromosome from its father. The key point is that it’s the single X or Y chromosome inherited from the father that determines the child's gender - an embryo with two X chromosomes will become a girl, whilst an embryo with one X and one Y chromosome will become a boy. This means that Y DNA is only ever passed from father to son.

 

In most countries surnames also pass from father to son, so there tends to be a correlation between Y DNA and surnames. So when a male takes a Y-DNA test there's a good chance that some of his closest matches will be with other males bearing the same surname. However, so-called non-paternal events (NPE) such as illegitimacy or adoption generally break the link - because children who are adopted usually take the surname of their adoptive parents, and children who are illegitimate usually take their mother's surname (and might later take their stepfather's surname).

 

Because autosomal DNA is inherited by all children from both of their parents, taking an autosomal test (such as Ancestry DNA, 23andMe, Family Finder etc) can provide genetic matches from any ancestral line, not just the direct male line. Go back 8 generations and you've got 256 6G grandparents, but whilst you will have inherited autosomal DNA from most of them, you'll only have inherited Y-DNA from one (and even that depends on you being male - if you're female you can’t even take the test yourself, you would have to ask a male relative).

 

When writing about the differences between Y-DNA and autosomal DNA testing I used to say that an autosomal test would provide 1000 times as many matches - but now it's more like 10000 times as many. So why would anyone take a Y-DNA test - considering that they actually cost more than autosomal tests?

 

As anyone who has taken an autosomal test will know - you might get lots of matches, but there's little to tell you which of your ancestral lines each cousin shares. By contrast, because a Y-DNA test only provides evidence about one line - your direct paternal line (the one that starts with your father, and continues with his father, his father, his father and so on) - when you do get a match you know exactly which ancestral line it’s on.

 

Furthermore, whilst the reach of autosomal DNA is limited - for example, there's only 1 chance in 3 of matching with a specific 5th cousin, and less than one chance in 30 of matching with a 7th cousin - the reach of Y-DNA is almost unlimited. So testing your Y-DNA will give you a good idea whether there is a NPE in your direct paternal line - if most of your matches are with people who have the same surname then you probably don't, whilst if most of your matches are with people who share a different surname you probably do. It can also tell you whether two families with the same surname are related, and might even enable you to conclude that the surname has a single origin.

 

Even the fact that Y-DNA only tells you about one line isn’t as much of a limitation as it first appears - because you can invite male cousins who bear the surname of one of your ancestors to test. For example, testing the Y-DNA of a 1st cousin who is the son of one of your mother's brothers will tell you about your maternal grandfather's direct male line - and you needn't worry if your mother didn't have any brothers because it could be a 2nd, 3rd, or even more distant cousin who takes the test (the key indicator is their surname).

 

Of course, taking any DNA test involves a small risk that you'll discover something unexpected - but as a reader of this newsletter I'm sure you knew that already! The good news is that when it comes to Y-DNA testing there's only one company worth considering - Family Tree DNA, who have the biggest database, and are the only major provider still offering Y-DNA tests.

 

Until Thursday 22nd November you can buy Y-DNA tests at the cheapest price I've ever seen, just $99 plus shipping for a 37-marker test (perfectly adequate for most purposes) - the normal price is $169 plus shipping, so this is an offer not to be missed! Please use the link below so that you can support LostCousins at the same time:

 

Family Tree DNA - SAVE $70 on Y-DNA until 26th November

 

I've included a table below which has prices for other tests that are reduced until Cyber Monday.

 

 

 

Save your DNA for posterity!

If you test with Family Tree DNA they will store your sample for potential use in future tests - most other providers won’t do this. For example, earlier this year I was able to arrange a Y-DNA test for a deceased cousin in order to further explore one of the lines that we shared.

 

See Family Tree DNA's Terms of Service - item 19 is the one that's relevant.

 

 

The story of an RAF prisoner of war

On Monday 4th September 1939, the day after Britain declared war on Germany, Walter Henry Layne volunteered for the RAF - and the website Wally's War tells his story from beginning to end.

 

It starts, naturally with extensive training, followed by tours of duty with 50 Squadron and 97 Squadron which are described in some detail (the log books are fascinating).

 

Then on 23rd September 1943 Wally was forced to bale out from a blazing Lancaster bomber over Germany - three of his fellow crew members also made a safe landing, but were captured after 2 days on the run, however Wally managed to evade the enemy until 2nd October. Interrogation followed, and at one point they threatened to shoot him as a spy; later he was questioned by the traitor Raymond Hughes, who was purporting to be acting for the Red Cross.

 

Even if your ancestors didn't serve with the RAF I'd recommend taking a look at the site - it's beautifully put together and lavishly illustrated with (mostly) contemporary photographs. On the right you can see Wally in a photograph taken by the security services at the time of his repatriation on 8th May 1945, but for me the highlight was Wally's 'Wartime Log', which is reproduced page by page.

 

For some lucky readers the website will prove be a wonderful surprise - because it lists around 50 fellow PoWs who Wally encountered, often including photographs and biographical information.

 

No doubt some of you will be able to add to information shown - and if you are, I'd encourage you to contact David Layne, Wally's son, and the curator of the site (you'll find an email link below the Introduction).

 

 

Adoption matters

In the last issue I featured a birth mother who was forbidden by her own parents from telling the father of her child about the pregnancy; the next story is a little different, because the birth parents eventually married - but again it seems to have been the grandparents who made all the decisions.....

 

"Your discussion on adopted matters has interested me greatly. In my mind it is a subject of two halves, those who were forced to give their babies away in the 50’s and 60’s and I am one, and those who are adopted now in order to give young people a better chance in life away from their natural parents who for some reason can’t cope. Nowadays it isn’t unusual for adopted people to maintain a level of relationship with their birth family, if it is acceptable to all concerned.

 

"As the children of the 50’s and 60’s are of an age where their parents are dying, we hear more of searches and reunions with their birth parents, there are television programmes which cover these reunions. They are extremely emotional, because almost without exception, the birth parents, usually an unmarried mother, were obliged by society and family to rid themselves of the 'shame' as quickly as possible. The memory was always there and often regrets about having no say in what happened.

 

"In my case, my middle-class family, professionals in education, feared for their jobs if news of my condition became public. So my baby went via my family doctor to some friend of hers, who didn’t really need another child as they had a boy and a girl of their own, and expressly against my wishes for the child to go to someone who was childless. It was just another example of showing the erring mother that things were out of her control.

 

"But, you see, I only just found this out because in the last two years I have been in contact with my birth daughter. I always knew that I would never try to seek her out, because I felt that, as heart breaking as it is, you relinquished your child and that was that. Even though eventually I had married her birth father and gone on to have further children, to my mind it seemed the only sensible way was to leave the adoptive family alone. And so it remained for 53 years until one odd day I googled her birth name. It came up on a site reuniting both sides of adoption situations, and it was right beside my maiden name!

 

"Amazing, unexpected - and I was unprepared. She had waited until her parents had died before searching. My husband and I are delighted, but the reunion is never easy, no one can predict how they will feel or act. We very much feel birth parents, but most importantly, we do not feel like parents. Our experience with her is so different from the experience of having brought up the other children. Our relationship with her is an adult to adult one, she speaks fondly of her parents and her upbringing, we can never be those people. I know we are truly fortunate, and surprise, surprise, she wants to know all of her family history, and as a Lost Cousins member, I can help with that.

 

"I wrote this because as my heart ached at the time of adoption, I know there are many adoptive parents who fear that their child will want to seek their origins. This is what all Lost Cousins members are doing. It is natural for some folk to want to know who came before them. But I know most adoptive parents did their very best, don’t be afraid, be bold, and be there to support. I don’t think many adopted kids have changed their parental allegiance. Knowing a birth parent may just enhance their lives, that’s all."

 

The next story, from an adoptive parent one the other side of the world has an interesting twist - one that I know will appeal to LostCousins members:

 

"Forty years ago my husband and I were lucky to adopt a 13 day old baby boy who over the years has brought the usual joy, frustration and sorrow into our lives.

 

"When he was in his 20's he and I had a reunion with his birth mother but nothing more came of that meeting and they didn't keep corresponding with each other. In his words he just wanted to find somebody he looked like.

 

"He eventually left home and did some travelling arriving in the UK and it was during this stage in his life I was advised to purchase a book that had been compiled for a family reunion as some of my family were in the book. Being an ardent genealogist I did in the hopes that I might uncover more of the family that arrived here in 1841 and I certainly did. I learnt that our adopted son was actually a cousin through his birth mother who was my 3rd cousin. My son, his birth mother, and I are all descended from the same ancestor who arrived here in 1841!"

 

I'm going to end this instalment in the Adoption Matters with a contribution from Frances Lake, a long-time LostCousins member who is the Founder and Co-Ordinator of the Descendants of Deceased Adopted Persons Group:

 

"I have been following with interest your articles on adoption reunions. This matter was of primary concern to the Descendants of Deceased Adopted Persons Group when we were campaigning for a change in the law to allow us access to original birth records.

 

"Now that the Regulations are in place it can be frustrating for prescribed relatives when they have to go through an intermediary adoption agent when seeking access to their relatives, and many people ask why this is necessary, but, as your stories tell us, the reunion does not always go to plan and using a qualified intermediary counsellor can ease the way forward. I would like to draw your attention to a letter written by Lynda Grange, published in the December issue of Who Do You Think You Are? magazine. Lynda warns about the impact of discovering that a parent was 'not as expected' after DNA testing and directs us to a website that helps people come to terms with their situation.

 

"I visited this site and discovered that much of the potential dilemma or trauma suffered by these people is very similar to that experienced by adopted people and that we have a lot to learn from each other about the way we handle the ethical and emotional side of discovery.

 

"The NPE (Not Parent Expected) website states: 'We understand it was a different era 50-70 years ago, and no one ever imagined these secrets could ever be revealed so easily scientifically. Yet, we are now feeling the impact of the trauma of these revelations. We hope that with this new and easily accessible technology, cultural attitudes will continue to improve, and the stigma of illegitimacy will disappear'.

 

"I agree with this statement. I personally know how exciting it is to discover a new relative through adoption, but can also remember the uncertainty and suspicion. Therefore, may I remind your readers to please respect other people's rights to privacy when making contact either because of adoption or discovery by DNA testing. Wishing you all happy reunions, but be prepared in case they are not."

 

Thanks to everybody who has written in already - there will be more wonderful stories in the next issue.

 

 

Do you have Yorkshire ancestors?

Mary sent me a link to this wonderful BBC recording at YouTube of her great-great aunt Tamar Hoggarth (nee Fletcher) - it was made in 1936, when she was 75. I had great difficulty understanding it the first time I listened, not because the recording isn’t clear, but because my ear wasn't attuned to the dialect (even though I was in York a month ago).

 

It seems I'm not the only one. Mary tells me that she remembers visiting her great-great uncle and aunt during long summer holidays in Yorkshire, but "As a child aged seven or eight, I picked up the accent quite easily and could converse; now it's a struggle to tune my ear!"

 

See this 2017 newsletter article for more about accents and dialects.

 

 

Society of Genealogists library temporarily closed

Problems with the heating system at the Society of Genealogists London premises, together with a forecast of cold weather, have led to the closure of the library - possibly for a week or more.

 

However, if you're planning to attend a course or lecture you'll be glad to hear that these will be going ahead - the room will be electrically heated.

 

 

A petition with a difference

I commented in a recent newsletter that there are two sides to every argument and, quite coincidentally, at the very same time a LostCousins member was finalising a submission for the official Petitions site operated by the UK Government - you could describe it as the petition to end all petitions!

 

If you believe that better decisions are likely to be reached when all of the relevant considerations are taken into account I hope you'll join me in signing this petition.

 

Note: please don’t take this as a cue to send me your own petition - no matter how worthy the cause I can’t sign it, for the reasons previously stated.

 

 

Precisely when was the Armistice signed?

In the last newsletter I posed a conundrum - the Armistice was signed in France and came into effect at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, but was it French time or British time? Anyone who has been to France recently will know that they're an hour ahead of us.

 

I got just two correct answers, one from LostCousins member Hugh, and the other from the broadcaster Dan Snow (who you'd expect to know, given that his Twitter handle is @thehistoryguy). I'll be reviewing Dan's book On This Day In History in a forthcoming issue.

 

Well, was it British time or French time? The answer is BOTH! From 1911 until the German occupation in 1940 France was in the same time zone as Britain.

 

Note: an interesting fact about the 1940 armistice between France and Germany is that Hitler insisted it was signed in the same place, in the same railway carriage, as the 1918 agreement - this meant hauling the carriage out of the museum in which it was preserved.

 

 

Black Friday offers

There's a book sale at the National Archives - you'll find it here.

 

I'll be updating this article over the next few days with news of offers which I feel might be of particular interest - so you might want to bookmark this page in your browser.

 

 

Stop Press

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